tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post2613088403661708509..comments2023-10-18T03:53:59.377-04:00Comments on The Last Debate: Why Sarah Palin's Family is Fair GameAndyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13524483460829802534noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-78251633288756875762008-09-06T01:54:00.000-04:002008-09-06T01:54:00.000-04:00remind me to give you a double wedgie whenever it ...remind me to give you a double wedgie whenever it is we meet in person.Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-52949687293683992432008-09-05T21:04:00.000-04:002008-09-05T21:04:00.000-04:00I did. It didn't fit in the platform, so I had to...I did. It didn't fit in the platform, so I had to wedge the wedge issue in. That makes it a double wedge.tullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01197709180292694356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-13619544390113778382008-09-05T18:03:00.000-04:002008-09-05T18:03:00.000-04:00and speaking of mary cheney's right to live as she...and speaking of mary cheney's right to live as she wishes...<BR/><BR/>who was it that tried to make her lesbianism a wedge issue?Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-1031536859256459802008-09-05T17:39:00.001-04:002008-09-05T17:39:00.001-04:00There's a difference between Creating caricatures ...There's a difference between Creating caricatures and Responding to caricatures. Your father, for instance, is more likely responding to a caricature when he makes ignorant comments. For goodness sake, Andy, these caricatures are older than this country. Blame ignorance if you like, but are you claiming that Republicans prefer a state of fear by their very nature? Or do you mean something else?tullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01197709180292694356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-42191227693308489342008-09-05T17:39:00.000-04:002008-09-05T17:39:00.000-04:00There's a difference between Creating caricatures ...There's a difference between Creating caricatures and Responding to caricatures. Your father, for instance, is more likely responding to a caricature when he makes ignorant comments. For goodness sake, Andy, these caricatures are older than this country. Blame ignorance if you like, but are you claiming that Republicans prefer a state of fear by their very nature? Or do you mean something else?tullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01197709180292694356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-67843759651113093122008-09-04T18:12:00.000-04:002008-09-04T18:12:00.000-04:00"the Republican party has made a vicious caricatur..."the Republican party has made a vicious caricature of the lives of gay people "<BR/><BR/>i like gay people, and embrace them as part of my life, and even my family.<BR/><BR/>but as for viciuos caricatures...<BR/>i think we've all seen the footage of pride parades. and these are not GOP sponsered events.Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-11508175477252299082008-09-04T17:24:00.000-04:002008-09-04T17:24:00.000-04:00Obama won't have to go after Palin's family. Ever...Obama won't have to go after Palin's family. Everyone else will do it anyway, and he and Biden will look all the better for not doing it. And there won't be an opportunity to ask Palin about it between now and her debate with Biden, because we all know she'll have to study...Tom Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09624259766787325887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-63472888153876764372008-09-04T11:39:00.000-04:002008-09-04T11:39:00.000-04:00Please excuse my snark, but I'm still waiting for ...Please excuse my snark, but I'm still waiting for FOX News to resurrect the "baby-mama" tagline that they put on Michelle Obama for Palin's daughter.Thunder Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01594849276853605077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-84623865091920004592008-09-04T10:29:00.000-04:002008-09-04T10:29:00.000-04:00Uh-huh. As if I have any reason to trust that Sar...Uh-huh. As <I>if</I> I have any reason to trust that Sarah Palin will stop exploiting my personal life for political gain.<BR/><BR/>I get your point. But I'm not saying anything about the Palin family that isn't true; meantime, the Republican party has made a vicious caricature of the lives of gay people and put it at the center of their party platform, and the subtext is that gay people are awful and immoral and a threat and we are guardians of the family. The reality is very different.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13524483460829802534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-53455535190668342162008-09-04T10:08:00.000-04:002008-09-04T10:08:00.000-04:00"Noble words, with which I'd happily be first to c..."Noble words, with which I'd happily be first to concur. But no...not until I hear the same principled stance from Republican activists who have made discrimination and fear-mongering a rallying cry and make people like me political props in their campaign of distraction."<BR/><BR/>These are schoolyard ethics, Andy. You might as well whine "he did it first" in the principal's office. If you want to say, "Obama's right- this behavior is wrong, but the Republicans must also avoid this behavior," you would be both ethically coherent and intellectually honest. Or, if you think that it is merely charitable or noble for the kids (who didn't chose their parents' jobs) of candidates to lead lives untainted by politics, then I can take none of Obama's "shoulds" seriously- they may as well be mere fancy.tullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01197709180292694356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8387588.post-17225103544727539452008-09-03T23:37:00.000-04:002008-09-03T23:37:00.000-04:00Thank you, Andy, for articulating this so well, so...Thank you, Andy, for articulating this so well, so logically, and so clearly. I couldn't agree more.LeLohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15073317400749817075noreply@blogger.com